No, I just happen to have a lot of reasons to be mad lately. He's exhausting, and pisses me off all the time. But at least we've been like that since we first met.
[that seems honest at least, and he pauses as he thinks about how to explain what he's feeling]
.... I expect you to lie to me. I expect Sasuke to lie to me. Ogou-san, Ishirin-san, Madopyon. Anyone. I'm a liar and I assume that a lot of other people are.
But like you said, he hates liars. It's just not the type of person he is. This is the first time he's ever lied to me, even if someone else asked him too, and even if he had a reason.
Well, if you want my opinion, you should learn to accept that it's not impossible. Not saying Takaomi should make it a habit of lying to you from now on...
It could've been a worse one, if he was hiding something from me for longer, or I found out after the fact that he was lying. It's pretty bad that he didn't give in when he had the chance to redeem himself but...
I can't be as mad as I want to be, when he was just trying to uphold your trust. I don't want that to be broken either.
... I'm just saying. As someone else who grew up in a similar way, I know what that kind of thing does things to relationships. It took a major trigger—including Emma getting seriously hurt because of me—before I started cleaning up my act, and if I could go back in time and redo things, I would.
.... I've started to clean up my act here. As far as you and Taka go, I can't remember the last time I lied to either of you since the trial I got cursed by Mizuki-san.
Even before that, I tried not to lie to Taka - because he's more uncertain about relationships, and lying to him when there's this much on the line would probably hurt him beyond repair.
But he lied to me.
And I'm mad.
[he huffs]
I'm... not gonna backslide or anything - but there's no point in trying to talk to him when neither of us are going to give in right now. We did this back at school too. We'll get over it - it just takes time.
Just saying that if you intend to spend more time with him in the future, you're going to have to reflect on why it's so important that he in particular never lies, or else everything is going to crash and burn in a worse way down the line.
... Then again, I suppose the stakes here are different than where you're from. It doesn't sound like he's used to circumstances that make a liar out of him either.
He hated me before we came here - he probably still dislikes a lot of the things that I do. But more than anything, he hated any kind of dishonesty, even if the truth would cause a lot of trouble.
[senri tilts his head, as if remembering something - ]
"There's no meaning."
"No one really cares about shallow people like you."
[majima's words during trial hurt, but they were hardly the first time senri heard criticisms of his character]
What, would you prefer it if I suddenly started acting like a nice guy? Though I guess that'd technically work by probably freaking you out and distracting you...
Alex, Catra, Entrapta, Estelle, Guy, Hiro, Luke, Shang Qinghua. We don't know if any of our known Justice followers switched; are we assuming Ludger is still with Ambition, then?
Aside from Ambition's followers, we're missing 1 Disorder, 1 Piety whom Ishikirimaru knows, 0-3 Justice depending, and 2 Cunning provided no one but you and Zoe left.
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You know he told me Merriment's his soulmate? Why doesn't he date Merriment then?!
[he's just
complaining about a lot of random things now, why did ray open this]
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[that seems honest at least, and he pauses as he thinks about how to explain what he's feeling]
.... I expect you to lie to me. I expect Sasuke to lie to me. Ogou-san, Ishirin-san, Madopyon. Anyone. I'm a liar and I assume that a lot of other people are.
But like you said, he hates liars. It's just not the type of person he is. This is the first time he's ever lied to me, even if someone else asked him too, and even if he had a reason.
It's... It's harder than I thought to accept.
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Well, if you want my opinion, you should learn to accept that it's not impossible. Not saying Takaomi should make it a habit of lying to you from now on...
But he's human, not an ideal.
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It could've been a worse one, if he was hiding something from me for longer, or I found out after the fact that he was lying. It's pretty bad that he didn't give in when he had the chance to redeem himself but...
I can't be as mad as I want to be, when he was just trying to uphold your trust. I don't want that to be broken either.
[it was just
senri's instead]
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... Okay, you know what?
I don't think this is an issue with your relationship with Takaomi, actually.
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It's more of a you issue and the way you perceive yourself and the world around you, and I think you know that.
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Anyway, just think on it sometime. You're going to have to sort through these things sooner or later if you want your relationship to last.
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... I'm just saying. As someone else who grew up in a similar way, I know what that kind of thing does things to relationships. It took a major trigger—including Emma getting seriously hurt because of me—before I started cleaning up my act, and if I could go back in time and redo things, I would.
Don't be like me.
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Even before that, I tried not to lie to Taka - because he's more uncertain about relationships, and lying to him when there's this much on the line would probably hurt him beyond repair.
But he lied to me.
And I'm mad.
[he huffs]
I'm... not gonna backslide or anything - but there's no point in trying to talk to him when neither of us are going to give in right now. We did this back at school too. We'll get over it - it just takes time.
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Just saying that if you intend to spend more time with him in the future, you're going to have to reflect on why it's so important that he in particular never lies, or else everything is going to crash and burn in a worse way down the line.
... Then again, I suppose the stakes here are different than where you're from. It doesn't sound like he's used to circumstances that make a liar out of him either.
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[senri tilts his head, as if remembering something - ]
"There's no meaning."
"No one really cares about shallow people like you."
[majima's words during trial hurt, but they were hardly the first time senri heard criticisms of his character]
.... he's such a hypocrite.
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and in a dead monotone:]
Wow, Ray-kun, you're so considerate. You always know how to make me feel better.
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Not at all.
I trust you to be honest with me at least on a personal level at this point, even when you think I'm being an idiot.
I need that more than anything else in this game.
[a foundation to work with, even as he tries to figure everyone else out]
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[he's being a shit.
... in part because this is getting awkward, stop getting sappy on him.]
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[ . . . ]
But it's nice to not have to act like I only have pleasant thoughts all the time.
[everyone in this game thinks he's so empty-headed and it's like 65% on purpose at this point]
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Well, that's partly your own doing.
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[this fucking liar
anyway he knows how fucked up he sounds so he'll move on,]
You know Ray-kun, there's only 8 people's alignments we don't know yet and 4 of them have to be Ambition? We have a 50/50 chance at this point.
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Alex, Catra, Entrapta, Estelle, Guy, Hiro, Luke, Shang Qinghua. We don't know if any of our known Justice followers switched; are we assuming Ludger is still with Ambition, then?
Aside from Ambition's followers, we're missing 1 Disorder, 1 Piety whom Ishikirimaru knows, 0-3 Justice depending, and 2 Cunning provided no one but you and Zoe left.
Is that right?
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